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johnnie
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Posted - 07/10/2007 :  12:37:22 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Folks,

I admit to a certain amount of satisfaction that there is karma. Lousiana Senator David Vitter's name appeared in the DC madam's little black book. It should be noted that Vitter entered national politics by beating David Duke down in Lousiana for a house seat in 1999, then parlayed that into the Senate. He is one of those right-winger "god and family" repugs who believe very firmly in the adage of "do as I say not as I do.

He was not in DC during the Clinton impeachment proceedings and I could not find any statements he made in that time period, but be assured it was likley part of the race in 99.

Johnnie

Senator sorry after number appears on D.C. Madam's list

Sen. David Vitter apologizes for link to D.C. Madam

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Sen. David Vitter, R-Louisiana, apologized Monday night for "a very serious sin in my past" after his telephone number appeared among those associated with an escort service operated by the so-called "D.C. Madam."

Vitter's spokesman, Joel Digrado, confirmed the statement in an e-mail sent to The Associated Press.

"This was a very serious sin in my past for which I am, of course, completely responsible," Vitter said in the statement. "Several years ago, I asked for and received forgiveness from God and my wife in confession and marriage counseling. Out of respect for my family, I will keep my discussion of the matter there -- with God and them. But I certainly offer my deep and sincere apologies to all I have disappointed and let down in any way."

The statement containing Vitter's apology said his telephone number was on old phone records of Pamela Martin and Associates before he ran for the Senate.

Deborah Jeane Palfrey was accused in federal court of racketeering by running a prostitution ring that netted more than $2 million over 13 years, beginning in 1993. She contends, however, that her escort service, Pamela Martin and Associates, was a legitimate business.

Vitter, 46, a Republican in his first Senate term, was elected to the Senate in 2004. He represented Louisiana's 1st Congressional District in the House from 1999 to 2004.

Vitter and his wife, Wendy, live in Metairie, Louisiana, with their four children.


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Posted - 07/10/2007 :  12:42:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i don't see the importance of him being republican, johnnie, after all, republicans don't have the franchise on being trashy
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johnnie
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Posted - 07/10/2007 :  01:26:32 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Uncle Tso,

I am a lifelong Democrat. And when I saw this article it tickled a memory. So I tracked it down. Vitter won the House seat held by Livingstone who was in line to become Speaker of the House. Larry Flynt had offered a million bucks to anyone who had dirt on those who led the impeachment of Clinton in the House. Guess who one of the leaders were? Livingstone.

His efforts on Clinton led to the plum of House Speaker which he never was allowed to enjoy. Why? Cause he was outed for his own sex scandal. He resigned the Speaker elect position and then resigned the House.

Not long after Vitter gets to DC in the wake of this scandal, he visits the DC madam. Hubris Uncle Tso, hubris. Karma. These clowns don't necessarily run on policy, they run on emotional issues; god, family, and country, and many times turn out to be such hypocrites.

Is it confined to Repugs? Of course not. But sometimes when dogs chase their shadows they bite their own dang tails.

Johnnie

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wanbligi
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There is importance in being Republican and found on a prostitute's phone log if you preach to America that you are the party of family values and christianity. Since 2000 there has been alot of Republican slipping in those two categories and Bush, Cheney and Rove helping alot of us making our minds up in moving different than the Republicans in 2008.
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Tso-i-De
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Originally posted by wanbligi

There is importance in being Republican and found on a prostitute's phone log if you preach to America that you are the party of family values and christianity. Since 2000 there has been alot of Republican slipping in those two categories and Bush, Cheney and Rove helping alot of us making our minds up in moving different than the Republicans in 2008.

i understand where you're coming from but i still don't see the importance of naming political parties in those nassy lil scandals... after all, nobody commented on ol Bill being a democrat when the subject of the Blue Dress came up
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johnnie
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Posted - 07/10/2007 :  08:33:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Uncle Tso,

Actually the subject of Bill being a Demo was a constant drumbeat in that scandal. My point is simply the hypocrisy of any politician who runs on the GFC ticket (god, family, country) and then can't keep his pants zipped up.

The subject of corruption in politics is as old as politics itself. But it is particularly galling that this Repug would visit a brothel after he rode into town on the twin scandals of Clinton and his predecessor who was busted for a similar inability to keep his wienie off the grill.

Johnnie

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Tso-i-De
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Originally posted by johnnie

Uncle Tso,

Actually the subject of Bill being a Demo was a constant drumbeat in that scandal. My point is simply the hypocrisy of any politician who runs on the GFC ticket (god, family, country) and then can't keep his pants zipped up.

The subject of corruption in politics is as old as politics itself. But it is particularly galling that this Repug would visit a brothel after he rode into town on the twin scandals of Clinton and his predecessor who was busted for a similar inability to keep his wienie off the grill.

Johnnie

ya, i found that spiel about how "Christian" he was, really laughable.

same ol same ol, even for those priests and preacher, when caught with their pants down..."God has forgiven me"
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Posted - 07/10/2007 :  10:22:29 AM  Show Profile  Visit DrAlCarroll's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The two parties tend to have different types of sex scandals.

Dems in scandals generally are found to be cheating on their wives by sleeping with interns, secretaries, volunteers for their campaigns, etc.

Repubs in scandals tend to be a very different variety, either closeted gays found sleeping with and/or chasing men or boys, or child molesting, incest, and other abuse.

Why? Either that sexual repression finally explodes, or they publicly claimed to be moral leaders in the first place to try and hide what they were doing in private.

Some examples from
http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Examples_of_Republican_hypocrisy_on_moral_values

Edison Misla Aldarondo, Republican legislator from Puerto Rico, was sentenced to 13 years in prison for molestation of his daughter and her friend for eight-year period starting when they were 9. Full Article

Randal David Ankeney, Republican activist from Colorado, arrested on suspicion of sexual assault on a child with force. He faces 6 charges related to getting a 13-year-old girl stoned on pot and then having sex with her. Source Also accused of sexually assaulting another girl. Denver ABC Article

Jim Bakker, televangelist with Pat Robertson at Robertson's Christian Broadcasting network. Committed adultery with Jessica Hahn [1] and then used charitable donations to pay her hush money[2]. Fellow televangelists say he's gay.

Merrill Robert Barter, Republican County Commissioner, pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. Booth Bay Register Article

Robert Bauman, Republican congressman and anti-gay activist from Maryland, was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. Source: Washington Blade

Parker J. Bena, Republican activist and Bush Elector from Virginia, pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography (including children as young as 3 years old) on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. Conservative Babylon

Louis Beres, chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon. 3 of his family members accuse him of molesting them when they were pre-teens. Editor and Publisher article

Howard L. Brooks, Republican legislative aide and advisor to a California assemblyman, was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. Sacramento Bee article

John Bolton: George W. Bush's latest Ambassador to United Nations. Corroborated allegations that Mr. Bolton’s first wife, Christina Bolton, was forced to engage in group sex.

Andrew Buhr, Republican politician, former committeeman for Hadley Township Missouri, was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy. Source

Ted Bundy campaigned for the Republican Party. Infamous serial rapist who murdered 16 women. Source: BBC

John Allen Burt, Republican anti-abortion activist from Pensacola, Florida, convicted of sexually molesting a 15 year old girl at the home for troubled girls that he ran. Source: Pensacola News Journal

John Butler, Republican activist, was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Keola Childs, Republican County Councilman from Hawaii, pleaded guilty to sexual assault in the first degree for molesting a male child.Honolulu Star-Bulletin Article

Kevin Coan, Republican St. Louis Election Board official, arrested and charged with trying to buy sex from a 14-year-old girl whom he met on the Internet. Source: Newmax

Roy Cohn, continually condemned gays and gay rights. Was a closet gay who died of AIDS. Wikipedia Article

Carey Lee Cramer Political consultant and anti-Kerry ad producer, tried for molesting two young girls, one of whom lived with him, and was 8 yrs old; the other starred in an anti-Kerry commercial. Diary Diary. The Monitor.

Dan Crane, Republican Congressman from Illinois, married, father of six. Had sex with a minor working as a congressional page. Salon.com article --Bkmeyers 08:36, 3 October 2006 (PDT)On July 14, 1983 the House Ethics Committee concluded that Rep. Dan Crane (R-Ill.) had engaged in sexual relationships with minors, specifically 17-year-old congressional pages. In Crane's case, it was a 1980 relationship with a female page. wikipedia.org article

Paul Crouch Televangelist, Former President of Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN). Paid $425,000 in hush money in an attempt to cover up a gay affair. Christianity Today article

Richard A. Dasen Sr., Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, convicted of sexual abuse of children, promotion of prostitution and several counts of solicitation, enough to add up to a sentence of 126 years in prison. Investigators estimated that he spent up to $5,000,000 on prostitutes. Missoulian Article on the trial | Missoulian Article

Richard A. Delgaudio, Republican fundraiser and Bush pioneer, was found guilty of child porn charges. WBAL Channel article

Peter Dibble, Republican legislator from Connecticut pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl. News Channel 8 Article

Brian J. Doyle, Deputy Press Secretary for U.S. Department of Homeland Security. On March 12, 2006, Doyle contacted a 14-year-old girl whose profile was posted on the Internet, and initiated a sexually explicit conversation with her. The girl was actually an undercover Polk County Sheriff s Computer Crimes detective. Doyle knew that the girl was 14 years old, and he told her who he was and that he worked for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. During future online chats, Doyle gave the undercover detective posing as a 14-year-old girl his office phone number and his government-issued cell phone number, so that they could have telephone conversations, in addition to their online chatting. Doyle used the Internet to send hard-core pornographic movie clips to the girl and used the AOL Instant Messenger chat service to have explicit sexual conversations with her. [7]

Nicholas Elizondo, Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. Halfway down this Bakersfield Californian article

Larry Dale Floyd, Republican Constable in Denton County, Texas Precinct Two. Arrested for allegedly crossing state lines to have sex with an 8-year old child and was charged with 7 related offenses. Age 62 at time of arrest. Dallas News Article | Atrios Article

Mark Foley, US Representative from Florida, engaged in sexually-explicit SMS text-messaging with 17-yo males, former pages. He had been chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children. details He was protected by US House Speaker Dennis Hastert.

Jeff Gannon Partisan blogger with no journalism credentials and a fake name who got invited to Bush's Press conferences. Is also a pimp and a gay prostitute. Truthout Article. See also dKospedia's page on Jeff Gannon.

Jack W. Gardner, Republican Councilman from Pennsylvania, had been convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. when the Republican Party, knowing of these crimes, put him on the ballot. Article with documents

Richard Gardner, a Nevada State Representative (R), admitted to molesting his two daughters. Review Journal Article

Philip Giordano, Republican mayor from Connecticut sentenced to 37 years for forcing two 8 and 10 year old girls to perform oral sex on him in his City Hall office. NBC Article | Newsday Article

Matthew Glavin, President and CEO of the Southeastern Legal Foundation, big player in the Clinton Impeachment, and many anti-gay jihads, has been arrested multiple times for public indecency, one time fondling the crotch of the officer who was arresting him. Full Article

Marty Glickman, Republican activist, was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a juvenile and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

Mark A. Grethen, Republican activist from Virginia, convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children. Orlando Weekly article

Jon Grunseth, Republican businessman and candidate for Minnesota governor, withdrew his candidacy after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter, and tried to grope one. "I've made some mistakes" he said. USA Today article

Ted Haggart, pastor of a 3,000-member church, who preached often against homosexuality, spoke with President Bush frequently, and was held up as a pillar of "family values." Turns out he had a sexual relationship with a male prostitute, who he also paid for meth-amphetamines.

Mark Harris, Republican city councilman from Wisconsin who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

John Hathaway, Republican Senate candidate from Maine, was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. Source: Casco Bay weekly

Howard Scott Heldreth, anti-abortion activist who gained fame during the Schiavo media-circus, was convicted of two charges of raping a child in 2002. page at Florida Department of Law Enforcement's Sexual Offender/Predator Unit

Neal Horsley, anti-abortion activist from Georgia. Has called for the arrest of all homosexuals. Admitted on the Fox News Radio's The Alan Colmes Show, that he's had sex with mules. Put photographs on his Web site of naked men engaging in homosexual acts and a nude woman engaging in bestiality amid shots of grotesquely maimed fetuses. Drug dealer convicted of possession of hashish with intent to sell. He calls for "the establishment of a new government, one that can obey God's plan for government."

Don Haidl, Assistant Sheriff of Orange Country, in violation of California's rape shield law, led a smear campaign against the child his son poisoned and then violently gang-raped on videotape, adding up to 24 felony counts. He said that his son "acted accordingly" because the child was a "slut".

Paul Ingram, Republican Party leader of Thurston County, Washington, pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison. Source: The Olympian Article

Earl Kimmerling, from Indiana, sentenced to 40 years in prison after he confessed to molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Randy Steven Kraft Republican serial killer convicted of 16 murders and suspected of at least 51 others. [9]

I. Lewis Libby, former Assistant to the President and Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney. In 1996 published a novel containing bizarre sexual content, including bestiality and pedophilia.

Donald Lukens, Former Ohio Republican Congressman, was found guilty of having sex with a minor - a girl he was accused of sleeping with since she was 13. Also convicted of taking $15,000 in bribes from the operators of a trade school while he was a congressman. A U.S. District Court jury in Washington deliberated for just one hour before reaching the verdict. Time Article

Pat McPherson, Douglas County, Nebraska Election Commissioner. Arrested for fondling a 17-year-old girl. Article

Jon Matthews, Republican talk show host in Houston, was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17. Source: ABC News

Nicholas Morency, Republican anti-abortion activist from Cape May County, NJ, pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor The Dallas Morning News article.

Jeffrey Patti, Republican Committee Chairman from Sparta, NJ, was arrested for distributing what experts call "some of the most offensive material in the child pornography world" - a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. Daily Record News Article

Brent Parker Utah State Representative. Arrested for soliciting sex from an undercover officer posing as a male prostitute. KSL News Article |Deseret News Article

John Paulk, lied about prowling for gay sex while running a fundamentalist group to cure gays.

Mark Pazuhanich, Republican judge from Monroe County, PA, pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. Pocono Record article

Beverly Russell, County Chairman of the Christian Coalition as well as a member of the South Carolina Republican Party’s executive committee, sexually molested his step-daughter, Susan Smith, who later drowned her two children. Herald-Journal Article |Commentary on Newsweek Article

Ed Schrock, two-term Republican Congressman from Virginia, with a 92% approval rating from the Christian Coalition. Cosponsor of the Federal Marriage Amendment, consistently opposed gay rights. Married, with wife and kids. Withdrew his candidacy for a third term after tapes of him soliciting for gay sex were circulated.

Dr. Laura Schlessinger, right wing conservative radio host. Promotes family values, but estranged from her mother; opposes birth control, but has had her tubes tied; espouses saving oneself for marriage, but admits to having had sex before she was married; opposes adultery, but has committed adultery while she was married, and has slept with a married man; opposes divorce, but is divorced and remarried, has posed for nude photos which are available online.

Larry Jack Schwarz, Republican parole board officer and former Colorado State Representative, fired after child pornography was found in his possession. Rocky Mountain News article With his political career over, he went to work in the hard-core pornography industry for Platinum X Pictures, owned by his daughter, porn starlet Jewel De'Nyle (Stephany Schwarz). Wikipedia article

Tom Shortridge. Republican campaign consultant and former head of the South Bay, CA, Republican Club, was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. Los Angeles Times Article

Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr., Republican City Councilman from Wrightsville, PA, pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. Sex Offender Registry page | Article

Craig J. Spence, Republican lobbyist, organized orgies with child prostitutes in the White House during the 1980s. Full page including Washington Times article Discovery Channel documentary

David Swartz, Republican County Commissioner from Ohio, pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. Rocky Mountain News Article

Strom Thurmond, Republican Senator from South Carolina and racist, impregnated a 15-year old African American maid. (BBC Article)

Robin Vanderwall, Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate, convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. Virginian-Pilot Article

Jim West, Spokane Mayor. Supported a bill, which failed, would have barred gays and lesbians from working in schools, day-care centers and some state agencies. Voted to bar the state from distributing pamphlets telling people how to protect themselves from AIDS. Proposed that “any touching of the sexual or other intimate parts of a person” among teens be criminalized. Had a sexual affair with an 18 year old male.Source: Spokesman Review

Keith Westmoreland, a Tennessee state representative (R), was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). Tennessean Article

Stephen White, Republican preacher. Was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy in West Chester, PA, for permission to perform oral sex on him. Daily Pennsylvanian article | Daily Yale News Article

Paul Williams, pastor in a large Southern Baptist Church, resigned suddenly amid allegations that he had sexually abused a young family member 17 years ago. He was protected for a year from these allegations being made public by the Church Pastor, Dr. Steven Gaines.

Ironic thing, I never get accused of not being Indian in real life, only online.

And only by racists, or people tied to exploiters.

It's always interesting when people who don't even use their real name accuse you of not being honest.

Edited by - DrAlCarroll on 07/10/2007 10:29:46 AM
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wanbligi
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Posted - 07/10/2007 :  11:51:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
RE: Dr.AlCarroll:

Very impressive, I mean not so impressive for the Republicans amid these scandals. I suppose the devil made them do it. What a crock of discharge from those currently holding the White House and matters since 2000. Hopefully people have learned now to think succinctly about the 2008 Presidential election as I know my field has narrowed considerably.
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johnnie
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Posted - 07/10/2007 :  12:30:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Geez Al,

I was just arguing from the gut instinct that Repugs get caught once in while.

Are there any stats on Repugs who beat their dogs? Cause that is a major mortal sin. And Demos don't do that. We do sometimes put little booties on the coon dogs and then laugh when they shake their feet. But that was when we were kids and bored on a winter afternoon.

Johnnie

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I kind of doubt that Repugs fool around more than Dems.

It's just that when they get caught, it's such rank hypocrisy because they are always lecturing others on how to run their sex lives.

I've known lots of Dem pols to fool around but they did not preach about how sexually pure they were and so if they got caught it was just "Oops" to the voters and spouse would either forgive or not--just like normal people. It's only when you make these special moral demands on the rest of the world that the world gets joy in seeing you mess up...

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Clinton had a 21 yr old girl pull down her pants to show off her new thong.

Vitters had to pay some skank to show hers. Some gay christian conservatives prey on boys to show them theirs.

Just like Chris Rock says, "you ain't never going to hear a conservative say, I wish these ho's would just back up off me."

"All my heros have killed wannabees"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsYRxoQtCbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Points_with_Lips

Clinton had a 21 yr old girl pull down her pants to show off her new thong.

Vitters had to pay some skank to show hers. Some gay christian conservatives prey on boys to show them theirs.

Just like Chris Rock says, "you ain't never going to hear a conservative say, I wish these ho's would just back up off me."



According to the Starr report, she raised her skirt and it was pretty much her idea.

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wanbligi
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Posted - 07/11/2007 :  7:43:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By the way does anyone know whatever happened to Monica Lewinsky? Heard she might be down under in Australia, not sure though. Thanks.
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Excellent thread Johnnie, David Vitter is anti-Indian and anti-gaming. There's a Choctaw band in Louisiana, the Jena band, recognized in 1995 and he's been against them ever since. I believe they finally secured a reservation this year but he fought them every step of the way.. The Jena's are Mississippi Choctaws whose ancestors walked the Trail of Tears but got lost on route and settled in Louisiana... They wanted to move to Mississippi (their ancestral land) and set up their reservation there but he accused them of "reservation shopping" for the sole purpose of gaming and proposed legislation against it, and he's drafted legislation to "clamp down" on the expansion of Indian gaming nationwide...


Republican tied to Abramoff pushes anti-gaming bill
Friday, June 17, 2005

A Republican connected to the Jack Abramoff tribal lobbying scandal introduced a bill on Thursday aimed at stopping the spread of Indian gaming.

Freshman Sen. David Vitter (R-Louisiana) landed in the middle of the controversy for his efforts against the Jena Band of Choctaw Indians. The tribe's attempt to open a casino in Louisiana, a state heavily dominated by gaming, was heavily opposed by a former tribal client of Abramoff's.

Although Vitter has claimed he didn't act on Abramoff's behalf, he is taking his anti-gaming views nationwide with a bill dubbed the "Common Sense Indian Gambling Reform Act." He cited a need to clamp down on the expansion of the $18.5 billion tribal casino industry.

"There are 223 Indian tribes across the nation operating 41 casinos in 28 states, including three in Louisiana," Vitter said in a statement. "With more than 30 applications for off-reservation casinos pending nationally, we must make common sense reforms to the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act to protect our local and state economies."

The legislation, a companion to one introduced in the House last month, isn't Vitter's first foray into the subject. In late 2003, while serving in the House, he inserted language in an appropriations bill that warned against "reservation shopping" by tribes.

http://www.indianz.com/News/2005/008825.asp

http://indian.senate.gov/2005hrgs/072705hrg/Vitter.pdf


Jena Choctaw Band back in spotlight in Louisiana
Tuesday, March 22, 2005

The Jena Band of Choctaw Indians is back in the spotlight in Louisiana as the tribe is moving forward with plans for an initial reservation.

The landless tribe was recognized in 1995. Under federal law, the Bureau of Indian Affairs can establish an initial reservation without approval from the state.

The tribe has been trying to do that but ran into opposition organized by disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff. As a Congressman, Sen. David Vitter (R-Louisiana) was key figure in the fight although he denies acting on Abramoff's behalf.

Now Vitter is pressuring Gov. Kathleen Blanco (D) not to negotiate a compact with the tribe. But the tribe only plans to offer Class II gaming on the site, so the state approval is likely needed.
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johnnie
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RD,

Anti-Indian, Repug, and he is involved with hookers while a married man. Three strikes.

And Stevie,

I recall feeling very down about the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal, until I heard actor James Wood one night describe the whole thing thus; "I mean, the leader of the free world could do a hell of a lot better than playing nasty with a woman with an azz the size of a Buick."

I then realized that what Clinton did was in no way a threat to national security.

Johnnie

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Just saw this hilarious article.

http://www.counterpunch.org/block07122007.html

And then there's that even bigger fish, possibly the biggest fish of them all, certainly the biggest Dick, and I'm not talking about the size of his genitalia. That's right, back in mid-May, you read in this bloggamy that the Vice (as in "criminal") President may patronize prostitutes. When he was CEO of Halliburton he maintained a residence off Chain Bridge Road in the Ballantrae neighborhood in McLean, Virginia, which had a phone number that appears numerous times on the DC Madam's John List.

Though just the thought of the creepy Veep having any kind of sex is like something out of Abu Ghraib, we all know that tales of illicit sex wake up the sleeping populace, while this atrocious illegal war, the loss of civil liberties and all of Cheney's other crimes barely seem to disturb the Great American Slumber Party. Thus the mainstream media, who are the real hookers to this Dick and his government/corporate cronies, has kept this story fairly under wraps for the past couple of months.

But more news is breaking. Apparently, the phone records are confirmed to be Cheney's. It's just a question of whether he got the blowjobs (or whatever) himself, or he arranged for (i.e., pimped) a little adult entertainment for "foreign clients." Whether this Dick is a John or a Pimp, he broke the law that he is so adamant about everybody else obeying. Will he defend himself by asserting that "the vice presidency is a unique office that is neither a part of the executive branch nor a part of the legislative branch," and is therefore exempt from rules governing either?

As those of you who know me know, I believe the law should be changed, and prostitution should be decriminalized. But in the meantime, I don't see why we bloggamists shouldn't continue to hold this Dick's balls to the fire. What he may have done with the Pamela Martin gals (or guys) is no big deal. Who cares what this half-dead man did with his pallid little pecker (or for his "foreign clients"' peckers)? But then this is the dick of Dick Cheney, Evil Puppet-Master of the Fascist Perma-War Universe, Voldemort-like Chickenhawk Slaughterer of the Innocents, aimlessly shooting at hapless civilians, from children in Iraq to his own hunting buddy in the woods. The war crimes he has committed cry out for some kind of justice, and if a little sex is needed to get Americans to Wake Up and Smell the Criminality, so be it. .

And yes, I do hope that Palfrey's attorney, Montgomery Blair Sibley, subpoenas Vitter, Tobias and, especially Cheney to testify on the DC Madam's behalf that her gals didn't have sexual intercourse with their clients. Even if nobody gets impeached, it would be a hoot to see Dick get his balls fried on the witness stand.

And then there's the matter of The List. As of this bloggamy, you can find the DC Madam's John List right online. Just download the records and see if your phone number is on it! Or maybe your spouse's phone number? Or your Congressman's phone number. AT&T: Your World. Delivered. And consider this: Right now, many of America's ethics-minded young people are combing those records, thinking they want to be like hypocrite-nabbing superhero Larry Flynt.

....Hypocrisy seems to be an integral aspect of Republican Family Values-Spouting Neo-Con-Artist Sexuality. So can we now just quit beating around the professional bush and call all Republican politicians by their rightful first name: John ?

Not that the Dems don't cheat on their spouses too; they just don't tend to like paying for it. They're cheap and sexually lazy, so they go for readily available interns that already work for them for free and/or the TV reporters that interview them (the interview is the foreplay). It might be crass (and cheap!), but it's not necessarily hypocritical. Of course, there are exceptions on both sides. But my friends who are hookers confirm that Republicans are the biggest spenders, perhaps because they have the kinkier desires and yes, because hypocrisy is expensive.

Conservative sexual hypocrisy is perhaps best exemplified by the case of Pastor Ted Haggard, gay john and anti-gay evangelical preacher, as well as major fundraiser for the Bush Crime Family. Then there's that page-loving Congressman Foley (he didn't go to hookers because they tend to be above his age range). Then there's former Congressman Duke Cunningham and the war profiteers' hookers-and-poker parties. And we're still wondering which White House resident enjoyed the services of Jeff Gannon, a.k.a. Jim Guckert, male prostitute specializing in military fetishes (Dubya, take your pants off, put your boots on, get down on your knees and put my gun in your mouth. Hooah!).

Well, they've all got problems. And they're all welcome to call me for one free hour of sex therapy. I'd consider it my patriotic duty to help America's politicians deal with their sexuality.

Dr. Susan Block is a sex educator, cable TV host and author of The 10 Commandments of Pleasure.

Ironic thing, I never get accused of not being Indian in real life, only online.

And only by racists, or people tied to exploiters.

It's always interesting when people who don't even use their real name accuse you of not being honest.
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danny moon
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Posted - 07/13/2007 :  11:44:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DrAlCarroll

The two parties tend to have different types of sex scandals.

Dems in scandals generally are found to be cheating on their wives by sleeping with interns, secretaries, volunteers for their campaigns, etc.

Repubs in scandals tend to be a very different variety, either closeted gays found sleeping with and/or chasing men or boys, or child molesting, incest, and other abuse.

Why? Either that sexual repression finally explodes, or they publicly claimed to be moral leaders in the first place to try and hide what they were doing in private.

Some examples from
http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Examples_of_Republican_hypocrisy_on_moral_values




Good list, but I think you're missing one.

The Republican Ryan who was supposed to be the Senate candidate from Illinois that had to withdraw. The disruption following his withdrawal resulted in Alan Keyes running and gave Obama the Senate seat in a cakewalk.

He had been married to the actress Jeri Ryan who appeared on Star Trek Voyager and Boston Public on the toob. He had to withdraw after details emerged from their divorce that he had coerced her to participate in group sex.

I'm thinking, dang, that woman ain't fine enough for you that you gotta do her that way?

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E.Y.Y.
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Posted - 07/13/2007 :  6:14:42 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
itchy dick disease?

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johnnie
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OMG,

The Veep was doing hookers? Well, playing second banana to Dubya is a stressful job specially since he is the real brains of the outfit. Does anyone know how to get the list? Cause my tribal chair goes to DC quite often and I am . . .

Jess Wonderin

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Qui me amat, Amat et canum meam.
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Wow, I forgort, Ken Starr's report says Monica looked back at Clinton and raised her skirt to expose her new thong.

I'm getting wood just thinking of that image.

Men are weak.

"All my heros have killed wannabees"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsYRxoQtCbo
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E.Y.Y.
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I dont give a shyt where a man parks his sausage. I just dont like it when they
tell the rest of us where to park ours. Do as I say not as I do....

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Tso-i-De
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Posted - 07/13/2007 :  11:37:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by DrAlCarroll
[ I believe the law should be changed, and prostitution should be decriminalized.
i do to, except in the case of pimps. they are just leeches on the backs of the girls.

rousting the girls has always been big business for the cops. everytime they see a prostitute they see dollars for the city.
we see them bust'n the girls all the time but how many times have we seen them bust'n a pimp?
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